tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-142743152971096915.post4781014677967208683..comments2023-10-05T04:44:25.174-05:00Comments on Addiction Inbox: Bong Water Illegal in MinnesotaDirk Hansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07429793255785560043noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-142743152971096915.post-82436156001886905122009-11-05T10:36:36.150-06:002009-11-05T10:36:36.150-06:00I would be interested in the rest of the story. W...I would be interested in the rest of the story. What was the sentence for this "possession"? Was this a jury trial or a trial before a judge? Judges have to abide by the letter of the law for a finding of guilty/not-guilty. Juries can come up with some very strange interpretation of law.<br />Sentencing is a separate hearing from the finding of guilty/not-guilty. Presentencing investigation brings out past history, etc. If this individual received a very light sentence, it would give a better idea what the judge felt about the letter of the law. I suspect the original intent of the “mixture” law was to cover cutting the drugs with legal material (sugar, etc) when the dealer increases the volume for resale. The judge would have to follow the letter of the law. Judges typically have greater latitude in the sentencing phase of the judiciary procedures. An example would be Al Capone’s conviction for tax evasion. Due to intimidation of witnesses, this is what the agents could prove. Capone was sentenced the max when someone else may have simply been assessed a fine and ordered to pay the taxes. <br />Both sides of the debate want to hold up individual rulings as the norm to prove their case. While this person was convicted on what appears to be an obscure law, law enforcement can show cases where a major possession case resulted in probation, fines or release on minimal bonds knowing the person will never come back for trial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-142743152971096915.post-43254801956685116802009-10-27T09:49:51.568-05:002009-10-27T09:49:51.568-05:00as a recovering meth addict i agree with decision....as a recovering meth addict i agree with decision. i know of many meth users that would save their bong water to be used later. a small bong with an ounce or two of water can hold several grams of meth in the water. take it from someone who has been there!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-142743152971096915.post-92223720778799832152009-10-25T12:27:29.695-05:002009-10-25T12:27:29.695-05:00You're right, it seems logical under the rulin...You're right, it seems logical under the ruling that possession of toilet water or waste water would now be a drug felony as well, given the levels of prescription pharmaceuticals assayed in water supplies.Dirk Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07429793255785560043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-142743152971096915.post-31343758039361979492009-10-25T11:53:38.344-05:002009-10-25T11:53:38.344-05:00Since drugs are now in river water (search: “drugs...Since drugs are now in river water (search: “drugs in water supply”) and cities get their water from rivers, city water is a “mixture” of illegal drugs (no matter how diluted), according to the absurd logic of this majority of four Minnesota Supreme Court judges. <br /><br />So – now that all of us living in Minnesota are criminals possessing “drug mixture” water in our homes and toilets – shall we wake up, end the abuse of government power, and repeal all laws criminalizing drugs possession?<br /><br />For more discussion of this Minnesota case, and it’s excellent dissent, see my blog post:<br /><br />Minnesota Court Waters Down Legal Definition of Illegal Drugs: Toilet Water Now Criminal to Possess<br />http://wp.me/pAFjr-2gThomas C Gallagherhttp://minneapoliscriminallawyer.liberty-lawyer.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-142743152971096915.post-16550833252642688282009-10-23T17:46:11.603-05:002009-10-23T17:46:11.603-05:00Yeah, I do. Admittedly, this is a weird case, with...Yeah, I do. Admittedly, this is a weird case, with it testing positive for speed rather than just marijuana. But still. I also think pipe scrapings should be treated as part of the pipe, i.e. paraphernalia, rather than as the reason for a two-bit bust. I'm not in favor of expanding the reasons for putting people in jail for personal drug use.Dirk Hansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07429793255785560043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-142743152971096915.post-91105747967697196392009-10-23T16:48:10.513-05:002009-10-23T16:48:10.513-05:00thanks for the post.
hmmm...bong water. Do you th...thanks for the post. <br />hmmm...bong water. Do you think the punishment for bong water and/or possessing a bong should be relatively the same?PMFAddictionTreatmentCenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02468858142289962940noreply@blogger.com